[SouthernRevolution]

Does anyone know how to determine what Clan that one is decended from?
I have spent most of my life thinking that I was of straight irish decent. When I actually started digging I found that one entire leg (maybe more) came from County Antrim.
McCurdy was traced back through County Antrim on to the Isle of Butte, Scotland.

My mother's side was Lipscomb and some of those relatives claim Scot heritage as well.
The Payne side of my father claims Irish as well as English.

[stonewall]

Well Southern Revolution. McCurdy is a well known name in Ulster, quite a lot of McCurdys I would say. There is a book called Ulster Surnames by Robert Bell. I'll have a look next time I'm at the library and see what I can find out.

There are a few Paynes about too,but Lipscomb is one I've never heard in these parts.

I see your from Alabama, an O.O. is there. Maybe they could help you in your quest. Maybe some of them have Ulster connections.

[Kilsally]

Well Southern Revolution.  McCurdy is a well known name in Ulster, quite a lot of McCurdys I would say.  There is a book called Ulster Surnames by Robert Bell. I'll have a look next time I'm at the library and see what I can find out.

There are a few Paynes about too,but Lipscomb is one I've never heard in these parts.

I see your from Alabama, an O.O. is there.  Maybe they could help you in your quest. Maybe some of them have Ulster connections.

Yes McGlaughlin is a very popular name in Ulster and Scotland.

For Genealogy the Scotch-Irish-L email list is brilliant.

http://lists.rootswe...otch-Irish.html

Also the Ulster-Scots-Society webpage has links to clans and tartans on the electric Scotland site:-
http://www.electrics...y/ulster_scots/

[Kilsally]

Depends on your definition of "Irish" really.
Clearly this guy doesn`t think Presbyterians are "Irish"

http://www.emigrant....=2;t=004635;p=2
Sean Mac Eochaidh said
"The most important and vital struggle in Ireland, at present, is of an ideological nature.

Some people are quite happy with the English language as the spoken and written language among the Irish people.

Some are quite happy with foreigners owning Irish land, industry and commerce.

Some accept a British-subordinate assembly in the six counties.

Some accept a British-controlled police force.

Some, like myself, want:

A Catholic Ireland
A Gaelic Ireland
An Ireland own and governed by Irish nationals
The restoration of the Irish High Kingship.

"Damn your concessions England we want our country."

[SouthernRevolution]

Yes McGlaughlin is a very popular name in Ulster and Scotland.

For Genealogy the Scotch-Irish-L email list is brilliant.

http://lists.rootswe...otch-Irish.html

Also the Ulster-Scots-Society webpage has links to clans and tartans on the electric Scotland site:-
http://www.electrics...y/ulster_scots/

I found a cousin that has been tracing the family tree for about 20 years. He has followed it back to Robert "The Bruce" and a whole bunch of Stewarts. I am told that this is pretty significant.

[Lochy]

When was the Robert Bell list published?  I am currently trying to link a Pennsylvania Patrick McLaughlin/McGlaughlin to County Antrim, which also had at least one McLaughlin listed. 

Also, is McLaughlin still common in Ulster?  I know that my line is definitely Scot-Irish and 100% Presbyterian.

Hi Linda,

Another poster is right. McLaughlin is an Irish Name. The McLaughlins of Donegal(who were the only large scale incidence of McLaughlins in Ulster) based their surname on an ancestor named Lochlan, who lived about 1020 A.D. His grandson was Domnall MacLochlainn, the High King of Ireland, who died in 1121 A.D.

http://members.aol.c...lan/clanmac.htm


The name derives from the viking raiders. The Irish used the term ‘stranger’ or Lochlannach, or ‘men of the loughs’, referring to the Norwegian fjords. This means that the Irish Translation of the name is son of a viking. The Irish spelling of the name is MacLochlainn.
This means anyone with the name could tentatively claim Norweigan ancestry as well as the vikings who raided Ireland predominantly came from here.

Therefore, if your name is McLaughlin, I dont think it is 100% Presbyterian. My Name is McLaughlin, and I am an Irish Catholic from Tyrone. I have traced my family tree back to 1759, and can find only Irish Catholics.

[Irish_gallowglass]

For those who wish to find their Clan affiliation, go look at Houseofnames.com. Type in the surname you think is Scots. If it is Scots, then go to electricscotland and look it up under the Clan/Sept list. You should find it. If not, you may not of had a clan affiliation. Be careful, a name (such as Paul) may be a sept in numerous clans.

As for McLaughlin, that is almost always an Irish-Gaelic name. My own father's folks are Mexican-Irish folks from Texas by that name. They fled from Donegal.

And in addition, very few people are 100% anything when it comes to using religion as a cultural idenity in Ireland. In the north, most, if not all, Protestants have numerous Irish-Gaelic roots, from ethnicity, to the Irish-Gaelic effect on Ullans. Not to mention Scottish-Gaelic.